02- 7-06, LearnTexasHoldem:
Trying To Move Up In Limits
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I have read that you need this type of bankroll to be successful otherwise you will go broke eventually.
45 times buy in for SNG Tournaments.
100 times buy in for MTT
45 times buy in for Ring Games.
example: if a sit n go entry fee is $5.50 you then need to have a running bankroll of min. $250.00
example: if you want to play 0.01/0.02 no limit holdem you need to have $125.00
This way if you have a run of bad cards you can handle the swings as long as you dont tilt off.
Now this in my opinion is a good format to keep yourself within you limits.
: Skill Level
I have read many poker books mostly books that are geared for high limit games. Sklansky's Tournament for advanced players, Dan Harringtons Vol1+2 and many more.
But when I play at low or micro limits I get constantly busted out because some yahoo is holding Ace Rag in early position and tends to hit two pair or pocket 22s and hits trips that i cant put the player on.
I find it so hard to play at the micro / low limits because of the terriable bad beats. See when you have one player at the table that is playing incorrect it is easy to adjust but if everyone at the table is playing badly or whatever, it is impossible for me to adjust. I tend on worring all the time everytime i am in a hand, if i am beat by some trash hand. And playing scared is a huge NO NO.
My Question is this:
So what am I suppose to do to build my bankroll so that i can play the limits i want and the skill level i want.
I was thinking of just saving money from work to i get to my bankroll goal and then start playing the limits i want.
Or just play any two cards in any position at the micro / low limits and just hope for the bet.
Sorry if my question seems Jaded, but i am so sick of being ahead in the hand and getting crushed by trash hands. And this is so true in tournaments when you cant reload.
Answer:
This question is similar to others that I've answered recently about how to beat loose games. The key thing to understand is that what beats a tight tough game isn't the same play that isn't going to beat a loose game full of inexperienced players. I would suggest that you:
- put some more time in behind the tables. Learning when to lay down a hand is essential in no limit holdem as one mistake can be your whole day. You'll pick up more tricks along the way, like, if you the initiative and get check raised by a novice player, one pair is rarely good.
- test some different strategies out at the low limit games where it's inexpensive. Again, you aren't going to make much of a day out of just waiting for AA and AK and hoping those hands will both hold up and get action. In both the tighter bigger games and the loose ones, you'll have to mix up it more, just for the sake of getting action. You'll need to learn how to play all hands, not just big cards. Hands like suited connectors, small and middle pocket pairs, etc.
- learn to play some hands that can trap players more. In no limit holdem since you can break someone with one hand, you can potentially play far more hands since the upside is so large. This is really important to understand for loose games. What you should try to do is limp in as much as possible and flop something big, then trap someone. The texture of the game dictates how you play. If the game tightens up, you tighten up. The looser they play, the looser you play. See, you can take a peak at the flop a dozen times and it will cost you very little if everyone is just limping. Then you hit one hand and get callers and you make a big pot.
- for tournaments when you are short on time, it is important to play more aggressively. The play you make in a live game won't be the same as in a tourney. In a S&G tourney, you need to develop more of a crash and burn style. Your philosophy should be, "I'm here to win it or go down in flames." A big part of that strategy, and no limit as a whole, is to not be a caller. The less calling you do, unless you have good reason, generally the better. Let me give you an example. Say you have AQ and the flop is KT4 and you are heads up. Instead of checking and calling to see the turn, a bet is much better. Let the other guy decide whether he wants to play with you.
Lastly, I wouldn't suggest just going straight to 10/20 NL if you haven't played much. Reading a couple books isn't enough preparation. I would suggest using enough of your own money to play something like 1/2 or 2/4 no limit, but that's about all, until you can beat those games consistently. There is a common misconception that if a game is bigger, there are less bad beats, hence it is easier to beat. That isn't true. As a general rule, the bigger you play, the tougher the game will be. Collectively, the bad players can give you a hard time, but that is relative to how much additional money there is in each pot. One thing offsets the other.
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