02- 7-05, LearnTexasHoldem:
Showing Hand Too Early 2
If I understand you correctly, Dave P, and "everyone said that was considered a muck" means ya'll ganged up on this poor s.o.b and screwed him out of this pot after, as the host pointed out, he very well may have already screwed himself out of the rest of Player B's chips/money, I hope I never get invited to a game at your friends house. Anyone who has played home games has probably seen this king of boorish behaviour. Maybe he's the "new guy". Maybe he just beat some loud mouth rabble rouser out of a big pot two hands earlier. Suddenly a game of poker turns into a game of dog-pile-on-the-rabbit and a mistake like thinking the betting is capped and showing your nut hand can cost you the biggest pot of the night. If you haven't already guessed, yes, this happened to me. Obviously, my intention wasn't to muck the nut hand after betting all the way to the river. And that's what this is, a question of, INTENTION. If Player A never said, "I fold" or physically surrendered his cards, his INTENTION is obviously to PLAY the hand. The simplest and FAIREST remedy is to put Player A all-in to that point. You would think second best hand, especially in a close top two pair vs. full house hand type hand, would just breathe a sigh of relief and fold what could have been a disaster, but the mob is a strange monster.
I say, if ya'll are friends, "everyone" should chip in and buy Player A a case of beer or something. Bad Karma, man. Bad Karma.
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Answer: The rules in the cardrooms are very strict; the reason is that the dealers and floor people have to constantly deal with pissed off players who will complain about anything and everything. By making the rules black and white it cuts down on the amount of perceived bias; now with all that said, the point of rules are hopefully to protect people and not persecute them. I agreed with you in the previous post by ruling that the guy who showed his hand too early shouldn't have to fold the pot, but just lose the last bet because the other player probably wouldn't call him if he didn't have the winner.
Let me finish by suggesting that if you do host a home game, enforce the rules in such a way that doesn't screw people if they make mistakes; do it so it prevents people from cheating. You don't want to have some nit picky game where people are constantly calling eachother out on breaking little rules, like calling a string bet on your buddy in a home game where everyone is drinking. Come on guys, poker isn't a game for little b&tches!
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