06- 8-04, LearnTexasHoldem:
Maniac's Synergy In Limit Holdem
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Next, take table B: TWO maniacs and three fish.Suddenly, everyithing changes. Maniac A bets, Maniac B raises, the fish call, Maniac A reraises, Maniac B reraises, etc, until the raising limit (whatever it may be) is hit.
Of course, this seems like common sense, right? More maniacs = more betting. But the shock effect tapers off after two maniacs are already in.
For example: Table C has three maniacs and two fish. The raising limit will still be hit. Maniac A bets, Maniac B raises, Maniac C reraises, fish call, etc, until the limit is hit. The same amount of money is in the pot as in table B.
Therefore, I present the following theorem: one maniac at a table can be held down. Two will bounce off of each other unitl the limit is hit EVERY SINGLE BETTING ROUND. There is no marginal difference between two and three maniacs at a table in terms of how high the betting gets.
The way this can apply to playing is that it makes working the implied odds a lot easier if at least two known maniacs are in a game: the betting will go to the limit every time. If Maniacs >= 2, (Betting rounds left) x (bets + raises allowed in a betting round) x (big bet) x (Maniacs + Fish) + (Current Pot) = End pot. The amount that you're going to have to bet by the end of a given round = (big bet) x (bets + raises allowed in a round).
--Mike
New Orleans, LA
Answer: I've never thought about it like that, but it makes sense. A cap (max raises allowed) is a cap and if two maniacs get the job done then the third won't make much of a difference. You can make a lot in these games or lose a lot. Another point to add is that sometimes you'll find a maniac that loses his drive and will calm down. If that is the case then maybe having a few instead of two will change the dynamics and keep the raising game alive.
Also, if one maniac goes bust and there are still two at the table then that would matter. Like you mention, if the hands are capped every single round it is going to cost you a lot of chips if you miss a draw or get a hand cracked. That shouldn't detour you at all though. You need to get in the mix with them and battle it out. It's the most profitable situation. You'll also find that maniacs at a table can turn other players who are normally good into playing badly. A maniac can sets players off balance.
For the new readers a maniac is a player who raises every round regardless of their hand. They come in different levels of aggressiveness -- some will only raise and reraise preflop, others will carry it the entire hand.
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