05- 3-04, LearnTexasHoldem:
All-Ins, Side Pots and Forfeiting Both By Folding?
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Player 2 calls
Player 3 calls
5th card is turned
player 2 checks
player 3 goes all in on a side bet to player 2
player 2 declines, does player 2 stay in the original pot or does player 2 have to fold out of both pots?
Thank you
Dan
Answer: That's a good question. I don't think I've answered it before here yet. The rule is that if you fold you forfeit any chance of winning -- period. This has certain implications worth mentioning. For one, if you think you have the all-in guy beat, if you can get the other player to fold then you'll automatically win the side pot and probably win the main one. Secondly, often times I'll make a play when someone goes all-in to get more dead money in the pot (dead money is money that is just in there and the player who put it in folds before showdown). Let's say that a person has only $20 left at a $100 buy-in no limit holdem game and I am dealt a big hand like AA, KK or AK. The all-in player calls or raises just a little. Now instead of just isolating the guy I'll raise only to $10 total because most likely he will go all-in. For some reason people are attracted to all-in players so it is usual for another player or two to also call the $10 behind me. What is great though is that the $20 player goes all-in with his raise giving me another chance to raise, which of course I take shutting the other players out or making them make a really bad call. So the point is that it is always good to know what your options are because sometimes they create money making opportunities that you wouldn't see otherwise.
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